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September 1st, 2008


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Christian vote key in Prop 8: Mormons took lead in campaign; Catholics brought numbers to ballot box.(NATION): An article from: National Catholic Reporter
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Title: Christian vote key in Prop 8: Mormons took lead in campaign; Catholics brought numbers to ballot box.(NATION)
Author: Mary Barron
Publication: National Catholic Reporter (Magazine/Journal)
Date: November 28, 2008
Publisher: National Catholic Reporter
Volume: 45 Issue: 3 Page: 13(1)

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Author: Mary Barron
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Company: National Catholic Reporter  (2008-11-28) (2008-12-10)
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Mormons For Proposition 8 Donors ? Mormons for Proposition 8
There are about 770,000 members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in California, according to the most recent statistics published in its 2007-2008 Almanac. (more...)

Mormons facing investigation over Prop. 8
The New York Times editorial board today endorsed an investigation of whether the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints violated campaign finance laws with its enthusiastic ... (more...)

Mormons and Prop 8
A gay ex-Mormon?s perspective on same-sex marriage, Mormons, boycotts, and what to do about this mess (more...)
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Interpreting the data as of September 18 ? Mormons for Proposition 8
Currently 31% of the total amount of donations over $1000 to protectmarriage.com has come from Mormon donors. That?s a pretty impressive number, given that only about 2% of the ... (more...)

Mormon Church feels the heat over Proposition 8 - Los Angeles Times
In June, leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints made a fateful decision.. ... The church, which has long sought to be seen as part of America?s mainstream ... (more...)

Mormons and Prop 8: Lies and Blackmail | Crooks and Liars
full disclosure: I work for the Courage Campaign) Last night, news broke that the the Prop 8 campaign -- after first denying it -- admitted to sending certified letters to ... (more...)

FPPC looks at Mormon backing of Proposition 8
The state Fair Political Practices Commission has agreed to look into complaints that the Mormon Church failed to report some contributions to the Proposition 8 campaign, but for ... (more...)

Catholic Bishops Support Mormons On Proposition Eight
U.S. Bishops offer support to Mormons targeted for defending marriage, backing California's Proposition Eight. The U.S. bishops offered "prayerful support and steadfast solidarity ... (more...)

Prop 8 & Mormon Prof Appropriated Pepperdine?s Name | Stop The ...
It wasn?t only Barack Obama?s name that was used dishonestly by the Mormon backed Proposition 8 campaign. Pepperdine University is still feeling the fallout after the Protect ... (more...)

Mormons step up security after anti-Prop. 8 vandalism
For the past two weeks, Sacramento leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have been on high alert. They are hiring extra security to watch over the Folsom ... (more...)

Open Question: When will it be time for the LDS Church to save the Government?
Since the US Constitution is now hanging by a thread as predicted by the prophet Joseph Smith, (Praise to the man) is the Church beginning to fulfill it's prophecy to replace the government with our higher, more spiritual law of Consecration? We've seen the success of God's communism in protecting our young, suggestible Saints from non-Mormon Gentiles who exploit them with titillating, vulgar displays of alcoholic beverages in stores and restaurants, but when you can't go to your own grocery store without seeing filthy magazines right out in the open.. When they display clothing worn FAR below chastity boundaries set by our sacred garment underwear... as if exposing forbidden skin on arms and bellies, or above the knees is "sexy" or "the thing to do".... when our children begin to think depictions of women in two piece swimsuits (sin-suits) is anything but pornography..... it's time for God's law! We founded this state, and when Brigham young said "This is the place" he claimed it for God. If we ever want this to become the Celestial state of Zion we've been working toward for so long, It's time to deal with those people who find it OK to violate Church Commandments in public. The laws are clearly outlined in the scriptures, and God didn't just intend them for Mormons. Until this happens, Utah will never be transfigured and taken by Jesus, Adam, and Joseph Smith to the city of Enoch on the Moon. I'm not saying we should excommunicate Gentiles from the state (Unless, of course, they commit felony sins such as as sex before marriage, homosexual kissing, etc.), but state sponsored church courts should have presiding bishops who can dis-fellowship unworthy residents. "Judges in Zion" could issue restraining orders against sinners to bar activities that give influence on our state and children, (Advertising, teaching, voting, possessing unapproved literature/media, etc.) They could restrain them from partaking in government programs, and anything else directed by the Lord. We should, of course, offer mercy to the penitent by allowing confessions in abeyance to anyone who shows proof of baptism by court appointed Elders. I hope this inspires you to see what trouble Utah is in. (And the rest of the country if you look at prop. 8) No this wasn't serious, but it is a serious problem. These ideas here are shared by many Mormons. They're the cause of countless outrageous laws on the Utah books, and they're increasing their momentum. They caused wine coolers to be taken off the shelves everywhere but in government stores. They require stores to cover up swimsuit magazines. Smoking is banned in parks, and shortly, anywhere in public. They're removing all sales tax, and shifting it to cigarettes, by making the average cost of a pack $7.00. Restaurants are banned from allowing customers to see alcohol containers other than glasses to protect children. Every time a Mormon law is passed, it's to protect the kids. It's become acceptable to enact laws to shelter children from ideas, and take away "Gentile" liberties. It's disgusting. The vote of a majority is not greater than the rights of a minority. Taxes should not be used as a political weapon. (more...)

Open Question: If Utah was further away from California, would Mormons have been as concerned with prop 8?

Open Question: Why, when religion enters the political arena, is it suddenly okay to ignore commandments against lying?
First during the Prop 8 campaign, we had the Mormons and the Evangelists saying that the failure of Prop 8 would mean ministers being forced to perform gay marriages or go to jail; or that ministers would be jailed for giving sermons against homosexuality. Now Catholic groups are claiming that if the Freedom of Choice Act is passed Catholic hospitals will be forced to either provide abortions on demand or be closed. Worse yet they claim that passing FOCA could allow the government to force women to have abortions "under certain situations" and even legislate how many children women can have! Whatever happened to "Thou shall not bear false witness"? Is this an indication of why we need a separation between church and state? (more...)

Resolved Question: Did the Mormons do this in regards to California Prop Hate?
According to IRS law, "Section 501(c)(3) describes corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literacy, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, NO SUBSTANTIAL PART OF THE ACTIVITIES OF WHICH IS CARRYING ON PROPAGANDA, OR OTHERWISE ATTEMPTING, TO INFLUENCE LEGISTLATION (EXCEPT AS OTHERWISE PROVIDED IN SECTION (H)) , AND WHICH DOES NOT PARTICIPATE IN, OR INTERVENE IN (INCLUDING THE PUBLISHING OR DISTRIBUTION OF STATEMENTS), ANY POLITICAL CAMPAIGN ON BEHALF OF (OR IN OPPOSITION TO) ANY CANDIDATE FOR PUBLIC OFFICE." From IRS Publication 1828 Page 5, Substantial Lobbying Activity IN GENERAL, NO ORGANIZATION, INCLUDING A CHURCH, MAY QUALIFY FOR IRC SECTION 501(c)(3) STATUS IF A SUBSTANTIAL PART OF ITS ACTIVITIES IS ATTEMPTING TO INFLUENCE LEGISLATION (COMMONLY KNOWN AS LOBBYING). An IRC section So did they? go here for more info http://www.mormonsstoleourrights.com/ (more...)

Resolved Question: Since the negative press of Proposition 8, have mormons relished the persecution, or felt bad?
It seems to me religion thrives on persecution complexes. "us" vs "them" and "they persecute us because we are RIGHT" ideas. Now, since the donations and campaign against gays made the mormon church a visible symbol of this prejudice, and focus of scorn of fair minded people, have they reveled in it, or seen that they are wrong, just as they were about the native americans and black people? Did the passing of Prop 8 confirm that they were in the 'right' to them? (more...)

Resolved Question: Mormons, how do you feel about your church not disclosing their financial support of Prop 8?
Does your god need to be supported financially to make a point? How far are you then from $cientologists in your dealings? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/26/us/politics/26marriage.html?_r=2&ref=us I hear crickets here....a point for me and against Mor(m)ons... lol, all of you lost your temper, some Xtians huh... I win, you lose, as always... (more...)

Resolved Question: What will the Mormons next move be when Prop 8 is overturned as prop 12 was? And don't bring up other ?
religions or blacks because they didn't fork over $25 million for a dishonest ad blitz campaign with "Save The Children" and "Save the Family" like the Mormons did. (more...)

Resolved Question: Do you think hermaphrodites should have to consult a church before allowed the right to marry?
Thanks to the gay marriage ban in California, hermaphrodites who were assigned the wrong sex can also no longer get married. I mention this, and elderly couples to a mormon guy on here named "mormons for jesus" and he said elderly couples are ok, but hermaphrodites should have to consult a church leader before marriage. Should they be forced to do this? Which church leader? This was after a reply, to an initial one he sent me. From: mormon_4_jesus Subject: Re: wow! Message: Elderly couples? Yeah, sure. Paul said, it's better to marry than to burn. Hermaphrodites? I don'tknow. That would be up to them and the church. What a person is is based on the inside, not the outside. I have heard of people who outwardly seem to be male, but when you look inside, all of their internal organs are female. Therefore, they are female and should marry males. But, since that's easier said than done, then it's something you would judge on a case by case basis. My point is, that whether or not actual children are produced, that IS one of the bases of marriage. And even if it's unknown that children will result, or a case of, if their circumstances were just slightly different, children would result, it's still one of the two pre-requisites for marriage. But, clearly, if both parties are of the same sex, one pre-requisite is gone. If you do not agree, if you did not want our opinion, if you would have stopped to think that there was the SLIGHTEST chance that anyone would disagree with yourside, then you either should have never allowed it to be a choice, or you should have made that extra effort to get more of those who agree with you out to the polls. (I am talking collective "YOU", not you personally) The lobby against prop 8 raised a couple million dollars more than the pro prop8 people. Why didn't you get out the vote? Oh yeah, elderly couples because he had already said "marriage is only for procreation" (more...)

Resolved Question: When Prop 8 is overturned because it violates the CA constitutional core values, what will the Mormons next?
legal move be? (more...)

Resolved Question: Why did mormons spend over 20 million dollars on prop 8, instead of helping starving children in Africa?
I use my money to support my family. I do donate money to Africa. And spending 20 million dollars on funding bigotry is completely out of line. But of course, IM the evil one. (more...)

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